(Just click on
underlined words to access the relevant web links).
To: Walter Regan
(Chair, Sackville Rivers Association) and the original Cc’d recipients: I am
sending this email as a corollary to the one I sent you all at 5:54 AM yesterday
morning since I am adding some more scientific rationale on the significant
shortcomings in the lake
water quality report prepared for the HRM Regional Council by Dr. Tony
Blouin. As it is a public document, it should concern all of us
intensely!
I am totally aware that
the Cc’d councillors and His Worship will be busy for a few weeks with the
budget deliberations but hopefully they will find some time to devour this
e-mail ASAP since some long term lake stressors will not go away; there is
vastly more interest in lakes now than ever as witnessed by the springing up of
stewardship groups all over HRM as well as the many emails I receive regularly
asking for info, etc.!
In addition, I will
cite further from Wetzel’s 2001
state-of-the-art limnology textbook as (the info in brackets is mine for
explanations):--
"Trophy
of a lake refers to the rate at which organic matter is supplied by or to the
lake per unit time. ……………..…………….. Trophy, then, is an expression of the
combined effects of organic matter to the lake! As developed originally and as
largely used today, the trophic concept (e.g., TP, Cha, SD, and TN) refers to the
pelagic-zone-planktonic portion of the lake ecosystem. The littoral flora and its often dominating
supply of autochthonous organic matter to the system, was, and usually still is,
ignored.”
HRM never analyzed and
quantified the autochthonous organic matter at all and neither do most studies
(we have done it sporadically though we now totally shifted to biomonitoring which is also
highly promoted by the CCME and Federal agencies on both sides of the border in
a big way)!
Especially note pages
marked as 2-4 (which are pages 9-11 in the PDF document) of the scoping
assessment (2006) prepared for the CCME! The CCME (i.e., Environment Canada)
already informed me that their Phosphorus Policy is just that, i.e., based on
one stressor, and was never intended as all-inclusive and they assumed the
reader would understand it!
To
the additional
recipients most of whom have a scientific background: Kindly
study the email I enclosed below that I sent others yesterday. This email is
now Bcc’d among others to Dr. Joe Kerekes, Scientist Emeritus at Environment
Canada Atlantic, who was also one of the invitees to the August 17, 2006 meeting
at the NS Environment Dept. (NSEL) that I had alluded to in my yesterday’s
email. All of these vents are indeed `inter-related’, one way or the
other!
It was indeed Dr.
Kerekes (also an associate of my team) who had educated me back in Spring-1991
about the total importance of the OECD Probability
Distribution diagrams. Dr. Kerekes was indeed the co-author (with Dr.
Vollenweider that I referred to in yesterday’s e-mail) of the final OECD
report.
It is real easy to
establish the `probabilities’, anyone with a high school education can do it!
Any trophic state based on just pelagic parameters with higher probabilities
does not necessarily imply that it is indeed the true state; a lower probability
cannot be ruled out for the very reasons that Dr. Vollenweider explained to me
(listen to a 4-minute mp3
excerpt of our lengthy phone discussions).
From: Shalom M.
Mandaville [mailto:limnes
chebucto.ns.ca]
[TOP]
Sent:
Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:54 AM
To: 'Walter'
Cc: Wayne Stobo PhD (Chair-HWAB-HRM);
Councillor Debbie Hum (humd@halifax.ca); Councillor Gloria McCluskey (Dartmouth
Lakes Advisory Board-HRM); Marilyn More (
Thank you Walter (Regan
of the Sackville Rivers Association) for `heads up’, i.e., for keeping me in
touch regularly and sending me the HRM (Dr. Tony Blouin’s) report to the
Regional Council; in this particular case, I was indeed aware of it since I was
peeking at the Council agenda yesterday morning but please do keep me in touch
in future. For potential multiple value, I am Cc’ng to other possibly interested
officials.
I shall do my best to summarize (in 11 focused points) but I
will be happy to expand further if invited to make a presentation by anybody to
anybody; these days, as a rule, I am available only on Wednesdays and Sundays.
Underlined words are clickable relevant web links:
(1)
Firstly,
HRM’s inlake chemical data is not detailed and has not taken into account many
parameters which show the exact opposite in some cases, alas! HRM’s data was
collected at a level that is typically carried out by volunteer groups and not
by anyone considered as a `leading limnologist`!
In addition, nowhere
does it explain the collection as well as the analytical methodologies (towards
the end of this e-mail, I will explain more about major shortcomings in
phosphorus analyses as was revealed over the last 5 long years and that applies
to some of my own team’s past data as well which Tony also obviously used in his
analyses to the Regional Council)!
(2)
In
addition, Tony’s determination of the `trophic status’ is based on ancient
methodology and not what has been discussed at numerous international scientific
conferences attended by leading scientists throughout the world. True trophic
status is NOT defined based on such indicators exclusively.
Wetzel’s year-2001
state-of-the-art text book clearly summarizes leading peer reviewed
published papers, and I cited it exactly in our Master Homepage and excerpts are, "Trophy of a lake refers to the rate at which organic
matter is supplied by or to the lake per unit time."!
The late
Bob Wetzel of the USA
was one of the three (3) leading limnologists in the whole world and he was
indeed a Scientific Director of my group (he passed away on April 18, 2005). Bob
had sent me several e-mails and even some
manuscripts.
(3)
Neither
phosphorus nor chlorophylla can
do total justice to the definition.
In addition, the inlake chemical
standards originate from deep lakes whereas almost all lakes in HRM (and all
over in
(4)
Almost
all the standards inclusive of our Canadian CCME
guidelines are from work spearheaded by Dr. Richard Vollenweider but they
totally ignored his major cautions, alas.
(5)
The
limnology of shallow lakes
can be quite different as discussed at numerous international
conferences.
(6)
One
has to carry out a whole bunch of BIOLOGICAL ANALYSES before one
can truly conclude one way or the other.
(7)
The
methodology Tony Blouin followed is/was also followed by many others inclusive
of my team in the past until we found that was not the proper definition of
trophic status. Many have unfortunately OVERSIMPLIFIED and that is the
fundamental problem.
He did cite the CCME’s
guidelines properly but if one reads clearly the background report
of Environment Canada (cited in the
I have already discussed these
aspects with senior professionals at Environment Canada’s head office and Cc’d
to the
(8)
In
addition, as I stated at some past meetings of the HWAB (Halifax Watershed
Advisory Board) as well as at several meetings of the Nova Scotia Dept. of
Environment inclusive of the one held on August 17, 2006, trophic status can
only be ascertained on a PROBABILISTIC
LEVEL using the routine parameters!
Kindly listen to the short
4-minute mp3
sound file of Dr. Richard Vollenweider on this subject; Dr.
Vollenweider is only one of the four Canadians to have ever been a recipient of
the top international medal in limnology, the Naumann-Thienemann
Medal! Bob Wetzel of the
(9)
In
addition, a lot of the historic phosphorus data (including our own) is
QUESTIONABLE!
The VG labs had admitted 3 years ago that their phosphorus
analyses was incorrect; until then, other local labs inclusive of the private
labs (which I believe Tony was referring to in his report) had their analyses
conducted at the VG labs.
I am not sure how accurate the CWRS-Dalhousie
data was/is as well since they have never been peer reviewed by CAEAL and
others.
The local labs (excepting CWRS) now subcontract to the NB
Provincial Lab at Moncton for such analyses, but questions have arisen about
their accuracy as well with respect to the phosphorus values at the lower end of
the range (there is assumed to be no problem at the higher levels)!
That
is one of the reasons we send some of our samples to the Federal labs and some
even to the top ones in the
(10)
But we put
lot more emphasis on detailed
biological monitoring (more emphasis on zoobenthos and phytobenthos)! Most
state-of-the-art limnologists also do the same (all one has to do is keep on top
of the scientific literature on a regular
basis).
(11)
In
addition, Tony Blouin also states that the trophic status of
Those archives originate with the NSEL!
You and Dr. Wayne Stobo of
HWAB are aware of the first
ever paleolimnology being conducted by the Queen’s and
Hence, one should forget the local
historic chemical data for now and use it only as an intellectual discussion
point.
I originally got quite upset with Prof. Dr. John Smol
FRSC (as Councillor McCluskey can recall) but he does make sense and he has
become one of the world’s leading paleolimnologists.
He recently was
awarded the coveted Evelyn Hutchinson
Medal by the ASLO and Wayne Stobo must be aware of the credibility of that
medal (there is one scientist, Trevor Platt, at BIO who was also a recipient of
it though in another sub-discipline)!
Shalom Murti Mandaville Post-Grad
Dip.,
Chair & Scientific
Director
Soil & Water
Conservation Society of Metro Halifax- SWCSMH, a multi-discipline
scientific/technical stakeholder group
Tel:
902-463-7777
"Don't say you
don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that
were given to Helen
Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo,
Mother
Teresa, Leonardo da
Vinci, Thomas
Jefferson, and Albert
Einstein." (H. Jackson Brown in Chronicle Herald; June
12, 2006)
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From: Walter
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:40
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To: S.M.
Mandaville
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